tonight on "primetime nightline." celebrity secrets. we pull back the curtain on motherhood in hollywood and watch celebs cope with career, kids and drama thahas all too real. i'm not going to candy coat . right now, i need to slow this party down. > crl sheen's ex-wife denise richards. how does she protect her children? >> i was lying so much to them i just had to explain, this is what's'seen going on. >> from tori spelling, who says she wants a normal life, but constantly puts her babies on tv. >> you ever wonder, maybe this could damage them? >> to kris jenner, the kardashian's mom. >> i eat kardashian, i sleep kardashian. >> and manager. >> is it weird getting a check

from your kids? >> the real truth. what's motherhood in tinseltown really like? celebrity secrets, "mommywood" starts now. >> good evening, i'm juju chang. tonight, we go inside hollywood, where it seems the newest celebrity must-have is children. we'll talk with some of the most famous moms in the business about the pressure of raising picture-perfect kids in the white-hot glare of fame. we begin with denise richards, charlie sheen's ex-wife, now a single mom. i talked to denise about dealing with divorce, addiction, and the madness surrounding her ex. she's the ex-wife of one of hollywood's biggest train wrecks. in the annals of celebrity motherhood, denise richards might have the toughest job of all. shielding her kids from their father's drama. >> my first thing is to protect them. once they're protected and all the other stuff, that's all that matters to me. >> reporter: is there a way that

you can quarantine your daughters from any of the substance abuse? >> they're not around any of that. >> reporter: they aren't? >> no, god no. >> reporter: how do you ensure that -- >> i ensure that. if that's what's going on, we'll see you next week. >> reporter: he's actually forced her to talk with her kids about addiction. >> it was a conversation i thought i would have years from now and unfortunately i had to have it a little earlier than i thought. i was lying so much to them and making excuses and i just had to explain, this is what's been going on. >> reporter: denise tells us she works hard to do what so many divorced women struggle with. getting along with the ex, for the sake of the kids. >> charlie and i will be in each other's lives for the rest of our lives. if i want to be mad all the time and create drama around these crazy circumstances, it's toxic energy and i just don't want that. >> reporter: denise says she wrote her new memoir "the real girl next door" because she believes her story is universal.

> think a lot of women, they can't relate to being married to charlie sheen or divorcing him, but they can relate to a divorce and how did it make them feel and the feelings of anger and hurt and sadness. >> reporter: and how are things between you and charlie now? >> today they're great. today we're good. >> reporter: and the visitation works well? >> i take it day by day and today we're in a really good place. >> reporter: you go to the visitation? >> yeah, we're one big happy family. >> reporter: lovely. >> i think it's good and it's important for the girls to see that we get along. >> reporter: and when it's not a good day? >> i never say we're going to see dad and have it not happen. i wait until the last minute and see how things are. >> reporter: last october, things seemed just fine as the divorced couple took the kids on an unusual family trip to new york. but what began as a visit to the american girl doll store turned into a night that exploded in scandal. >> it started out as an idyllic weekekd. we had a great time until a

certain incident happened and it kind of went south. >> reporter: an incident at the plaza hotel with police on the scene and sheen in the hospital, accused of assault. >> developing story. >> charlie sheen hospitalized. >> bizarre episode. >> drunk and incoherent. >> police say he trashed a suite. >> reporter: what puzzled everyone is why denise was at the dinner party where it all started. why do you think he invited you along? >> i asked him that and he said, i didn't want you to feel left out. >> reporter: that was sweet. >> i thought it was sweet. >> reporter: why did you say yes? >> i thought it was nice. he and i could have a grown up night with friends. >> reporter: friendsds >> and that's what i thought it was. >> reporter: but those friends turned out to be paid escorts. >> i knew within 20 minutes, less than that. i know my ex-husband well and he kind of likes that sort of entertainment. it didn't take long for me to put two and two together. >> reporter: denise found herself sitting next to porn

star capri anderson, who wound up naked, locked in sheen's hotel bathroom. capri even asked to take a picture with her. tmz.e photos were later sold to denise says she left the dinner early. and her kids slept through the whole commotion across the hall. >> all they know is they had a great time in new york with their mom and dad. that's all i care about. >> reporter: before her turbulent marriage, denise richards was best known for her role in the thriller "wild things" which featured a racy lesbian love scene. that role led to bond girl status playing a hot nuclear scientist in "the world is not enough." >> dr. jones. christmas jones. and don't make any jokes. i've heard them all. >> reporter: she then fell in love with sheen on the set of "spin city." >> you 1/2 done would have ton the same thing. >> you can't go by me. i'm legendary for my bad judgment. >> reporter: by comparison, you're a goody two shoes. how did you fall in love with him? >> the man that i divorced was not the man i married. when i met him, he was sober for three years.

i admired his sobriety and how he worked on himself and how humble he was. we just had a deep connection. >> reporter: it was s whirlwind romance. within eight months, they were married, and it wasn't long before they had a daughter. >> once my first daughter was born, sammy, i knew, okay, this is what i'm supposed to do. i felt complete, though a lot of people say, nobody can complete you. i feel that my children did. >> reporter: five months after sammy's birth, denise did something unthinkable for most new moms. she posed nude. >> i was having problems in my marriage and i just had a baby. >> reporter: moms can be sexy. >> moms can be sexy. and i think the other part of it was, inside, i didn't feel sexy. >> reporter: denise was six months pregnant with lola when she left her marriage. >> it was not an easy decision. it was very, very difficult. i loved him so much and leaving, i felt so guilty. >> reporter: why guilty? >> guilty of splitting up my family. i felt bad for the kids. guilty that, you know, we were a

failure as a couple. >> reporter: what ensued was one of hollywood's nastiest divorces. then, more controversy. her romance with richie sambora, who was divorcing heather r locklear. denise thinks all the bad press hurt her career. >> i supposedly stole a well-known actress' husband and i was battling america's number one sitcom star, so -- >> reporter: in the courts and in the press. >> it was very hard for me to comprehend that my personal life would affect my career. >> reporter: what people didn't realize at the time was that denise agreed to do her reality show "it's complicated" because she felt she had no choice. >> i needed a paycheck. my funds dried up with all my legal fees. it was tough. i had to take a job. >> reporter: sammy and lola didn't mind the cameras. for the e! show which ran for two years. but they just don't like the paparazzi. >> a lot of people say, your kids look so unhappy in

pictures. they're not unhappy children. they just don't like paparazzi. >> reporter: these days, denise stars in the spike tv show "blue mountain state." she's launching a hair care line, a perfume, and in what's left of her spare time, she works with abused animals. >> hi, scooter. you've been through a lot. >> reporter: do you see it as a metaphor for your life that you're taking in wounded creatures and trying to heal them? >> i take a lot of wounded people into my life. i've always been that way. if my mom were alive, she would be able to tell you stories. >> reporter: denise lost her mom to cancer in the midst of all her recent turmoil. now, she's raising her daughters and gutting her house, alone, with the help of grand pa. >> there's my dad. >> reporter: dating is tricky in mommywood. >> are you building a his closet? >> he does. i have a lot of baggage, good baggage, but it's a lot. i need a very strong man and

someone who would be a great father figure or dad. >> reporter: she's also not waiting around for a partner to have more kids. just last month, denise adopted a little girl. what made you adopt? >> i love being a mom more than anything and i wanted to have more children and i had to make a decision. do i wait until i meet the right person or do i keep moving forward with my life and do it on my own? >> reporter: what was it like to bring the baby home? >> she is so incredible and my daughters were -- are so in love with her. >> reporter: it was a domestic adoption of a now 7 week old black, white and hispanic little girl named after denise's mother, jonie. eloise jonie richards. >> oh my god! >> reporter: denene celebrated her arrival with a baby shower. >> so cute. she's just a beautiful, gorgeous. the right baby found me. and next, tori spelling on whether putting kids in front of the spotlight can hurt them.

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"primetime nightline," celebrity secrets, continues. >> look at the camera, liam! >> we're doing old hollywood. i'm going to be a very pregnant jean harlrl. >> reporter: this is tori spelling's living room. >> me? >> reporter: we're in the middle of a cover shoot for "parenting" magazine. her reality tv crew's capture it all. >> perfectct love that. >> reporter: cameras on them. cameras on the cameras, and our "nightline" cameras on their cameras. it's tori's life, imitating art,

imitating life. welcome to mommywood. >> mommywood means being a mom, doing it like everyone else but kind of being on the fish bowl with the eyes all around you. >> reporter: but today, all eyes are on liam, who doesn't want to wear his hat. >> guys, he doesnsn want the cane and the hat. too cool for him. >> no it's not! >> reporter: it's a typical toddler tantrum. but later, millimeters of reality show viewers will watch and judge. >> okay,y,listen, dude. if you wear the hat, what present would you like? >> it was a huge, big deal. he wouldn't wear it, he wouldn't be in the photo. you can't force a child to do anything. that's the bottom line. >> reporter: do you ever feel that criticism, how could you exploit your kids like that? >> they're filming our real life. whatever i'm showing is exactly what we would be doing if the cameras weren't there. to me, it's not exploiting. >> look over here, liam. >> for everyone person that says that, there's 20 other people

that say, oh, you're a great mom, we get to see you're a hands on mom. none of it is fake. >> reporter: the real mommywood isn't just a place where your kitchen is filled with makeup artists, but also the occasional farm animal. the zoo has everything to do with the other tori spelling. the one who is out to prove she can raise kids hollywood but wholesome. an earth mother with silicone implants. life as a celebrity mom is a far cry from the role that made her famous. starring as donna in "beverly hills 90210," the '90s hit that made growing upn that zip code very glamorous. >> please believeme. i didn't plan to get drunk. >> reporter: in contrast, her reality show about raising a family seems determined to show that life in her hometown is not always glamorous. >> boy. >> are you serious?

my first ultrasound with liam that we filmed, i was five months pregnant and i look back at that footage and i'm like, i have five chins. and i panicked and i was like, calm down, this is what you signed up. you said you wanted to do this. i had a moment and after i said, that's it. >> you can't take a picture of my house. you know it's illegal. >> [ bleep ] you. >> reporter: there's a huge line between the welcome cameras and unwelcome. >> absolutely. people are say, oh, you're angry about the paparazzi stalking you and doing things and taking pictures of your kids. but yet, you have reality cameras in your home and i'm very quick to say, it's completely different. the cameras in our house is a welcome crew. they're family. they're people we hang out with. and i trust if something is happening, they're going to put down the cameras and they're going to help my child. if something were to happen out in the public, they want to get it on film.

they don't want to help my child. >> oh, my god. he's attacking the paparazzi. oh, no. >> sean penn. way to go. sean penn. >> big scare for tori spelling. >> so glad they're all okay. >> reporter: and just last month, her bat with the paparazzi came to a head. while trying to escape them, she crashed her car into this brick wall. was the car accident actually caused by the paparazzi? >> the bottom line is, it was caused by me. was it induced because of paparazzi, yes. >> reporter: it must have shaken you up. >> yeah. i was frozen. i was kind of -- and then when all the moms ran over, i was terribly embarrassed because i felt like -- i i feel like i tr really hard to fit in and be a normal mom and i started crying and i apologized to the moms and they were like, what are you crying about? we feel terrible this happened. i'm sorry, i'm sorry i broughtht this here. >> reporter: more than anything,

she says she wants to be normal. a normal mommy mogul. >> you and dean have restored my faith in happily ever after. >> reporter: she's created an empire of three best receiving books, a line of jewelry, kids clothing and a store featuring all her favorite things. >> part of my wants to be like martha stewart and part of me wants to be aaron spelling, you know? you know what this is? a watermelon. i like to craft, make, do, i like to raise babies, have farm animals. we're backyard farmers in the city. >> reporter: those are the most chic chickens i've ever met. >> well, of course. my ultimate dream would be to live on a farm somewhere. >> reporter: really? how come? >> i don't know. it's interesting. not the way i grew up. i grew up in the lap of luxury. >> reporter: that is a serious understatement. her father, tv producer aaron spelling, built the biggest

house in hollywood, a family palace complete with 27 bathrooms. she's well aware of how painful it can be to grow up in the cruel glare of hollywood spotlight. her dad cast her in the role that made her a star but then she spent her way towards bankruptcy and didn't want to ask her father to bail her out. you never picked up the phone and asked for that kind of help? >> i never would. it just made me go, okay, got to work, got to go. let's go. let's do it. >> reporter: so, together with her new husband, dean mcdermott, she launched a hit reality show titled, "tori and dean inn love." and that's how it started. they allowed the cameras to role when he son was born. >> love you, liam. >> reporter: and then stella. >> you want to kiss the baby? >> stella. >> reporter: but in 2009, tori's own mother wrote an open letter to tmz, slamming tori for using

her children as reality show props. >> oh, dear. come on. >> reporter: yet tori defends her choices. >> i could be out acting and getting a job and being on a set 18 hours a day every day away from my kids and they could be hoho with a nanny. >> reporter: and yet having their childhoodsds be on tv, yo ever wonder, well, maybe this could damage them or this could come back and haunt them? >> it really doesn't impact them. if i saw that, it would be done. >> you look fantastic! >> reporter: there is a happy ending to this tale. tori has resolved the very public feud with her biggest critic. her own hollywood mother. what unlocked that door? >> the kids. the kids. and especially at their age, they ask for her. they want to be with grandma. when i see her doing things with the kids, it reminds me of, like, i remember when she did that with me. she was giving stella butterfly

kisses one day and i was thinking the same thing. she turned to me, do you remember? and -- i'm going to cry. it was really nice. >> reporter: why does that make you emotional? >> because it's my mom, you know? and no matter what has happened or has been said you still -- you love your parent no matter what. the parent loves the child no matter what. and next, rachel zoe. she's the cheekist, skinniest stylist in hollywood. how a new baby turned her world upside down. >> i need to slow this party down. so, what are we going to do with this? i don't know. the usual? [ blower whirring ] sometimes it pays to switch things up. my - what, my hair? no. car insurance. i switched to progressive and they gave me discounts for the time i spent with my old company. saved a bunch. that's a reason to switch. big savings -- it's a good look for you.

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she is the go-to stylist to the stars. a fashion wiz who has come under fire for pushing her a-list clients into size 0 dresses. but when she learned she would have to accessorize a baby bump, rachel zoe says everything changed. >> you love momma's outfits. you love it here. >> the clutch? >> reporter: this little baby has given one c cebrity mom a radical makeover. >> that is so major that i want to carry that tonight even though i'm not going anywhere. >> reporter: rachel zoe may not be a house hold name but her signature glamour can be seen throughout hollywood. any comb's giant sunglasses. kate's boheme look and camera's red carpet glam. and the list goes on. jennife jennifer, eva, demi. she turns style and glamour into

a xhod commodity. >> people want to see a fairy tale. >> reporter: she's now nearly as famous a athe people she dresses, thanks to her megahit reality show "the rachel zoe" protect. >> you look bananas. shut it down. >> reporter: she even sets trends with what she says. >> so major. >> reporter: but last season, it was the anguish over hereticing biological clock that took center stage. >> i'm like okay, next year, next year, but i'm 38. and it hangs over my head every day. >> so, what's the party line? >> the party line is working on it. in what way? >> delivery tbd. >> reporter: even her husband, roger berman, who runs her empire, was urging her to change her ways and have a baby. >> i mean -- >> baby rightht now. >> oh, my god. i have to get dressed. >> reporter: you were very ambivalent about having kids for

awhile. >> i don't think i was ambivalent about having one because i knew i would always regret if i didn't. my issue was when. you know? the time was running out. >> reporter: zoe has been criticized for her extreme thinness. some thought too thin for a pregnancy. were you ever concerned that you were going to have difficulty carrying a baby? >> strangely, i wasn't. >> reporter: so, you weren't afraid of weight gain? >> no. i really loved it. i had curves and a belly. it was really fun. more boobs. everything. and i think gaining weight as a pregnant woman is like, party on. ♪ my name is sky sky ♪ i'm a little little guy >> reporter: and then, with the birth of her son skyler, something unexpected happened. zoe slowed down and fell head over six-inch heels in love.

>> good morning! >> reporter: how does motherhood feel? >> i can't even talk about it without getting choked up. it's -- it's everything. are you a french fry? i never thought i could love something more than my husband. but i look at roger and i love him. i look at my child and my eyes kill with water. my baby. >> just watching her look into the baby's eyes is what it's all about for me. >> reporter: as a new mom, she's gained new perspective. >> he's only 3 and a half months and i take him everywhere with me. >> reporter: for the first time, she says she has something that takes priority over her obsession with fashion. >> we're not saving lives so when i take a step back, i'm like, god, that was really traumatizing about that dress and then it's like, really? what's traumatizing is actually, you know, is my son sick? >> hey, good morn iing.

>> something that's way bigger than you or anything. >> reporter: with skyler in tow, rachel and roger are juggling parenthood and a rapidly growing business. >> hey, roger. >> reporter: you have four full-time jobs, basically. >> yeah. i do. >> reporter: zoe is launching her own upscale collection of clothingbags this fall. >> this looks like a blazer i own. so funny. >> this one is even better. >> reporter: and she already has a line of affordable luxury she sells on qvc. what's the price point? >> this is, i believe, $79. >> reporter: get out. but of course, the main stay of her empire? difling g megastars. >> so, this is where the magic happens. this is the walkway here. >> reporter: how much harder is the e eire building now that you have a 3 month old? >> every decision that i make is skyler in my mind. how much time is this away from

him? can i take him with me? >> reporter: a constant calculating in your head. >> it is. but i'm not going to candy coat it. it's a lot. and there are times when i want to just go into my closet, close the door, take my baby in there with me and be like, everything needs to stop, like, right now, i need to slow this party down. i think that's a really good size. >> reporter: for zoe, sacrifices mean skipping the fashion shows in paris and milan for two seasons. you are actually pulling back. >> everything is more complicated now, which i always knew it would be, and it is, but you don't mind. that's the difference. this is my closet, but -- >> reporter: wow. but there are differences about her style as a new mom. oh, those are incredible. am i going to catch you in sweats? >> no, y y won't. i wore these when i was 39 weeks pregnant. >> reporter: come on. >> you will catch me in less

jewelry. >> reporter: baby spit-up would not look -- >> that's why i have a different jacket on when i'm holding him. not just because of the spit-up, but the sequins can hurt his face. >> reporter: and no more walking in six-inch heels with the baby. >> reporter: you won't pick him up -- >> i can hold him, but i won't walk with him. >> reporter: and look at the baby's closet. >> three little sweaters. >> reporter: so cute. >> he has a wardrobe from now until he's 2. literally every age and it's sectioned off. >> reporter: he's the best dressed kid. >> are you ready for this? >> reporter: come on. from gucci? >> it's a bomber jacket. right? isn't that everything? >> reporter: even so, zoe says little boy's fashion is dispointing compared to girls. so, she's starting a line of kikid

s clothes. >> there's going to be a lotot boys clothes in my line. >> reporter: i like that. we're breaking news here. virtually every aspect of her life has become a marriage of enterprise and mother hood. every day i wake up, thinking, what can i do next and what more can i do? and with my husband by my side and now skyler, my son, i feel like anything's possible. >> behind every sexy kardashian stands the mother with the midas touch. next, kris jenner and her daughters open up. >> it is ever hard to get your mom to take off the manager hat and put back on the mom hat? is she over there saying no? >> watch what you say. i'm watching you. this tastes great.

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kris jenner. she'e'known as hollywood's ultimate momager. can she really be both mom and manager r her kids? is it weird getting a check from your kids? when "primetime nightline"

"primetime nightline," celebrity secrets continues. i'm joined by my friend, another mom, lara spencnc of "good morning america," who caught up with the woman known around hollywood as the ultimate momager. what's up with that? >> she actually introduced herself to me as momager. we're talking about kris jenner and she is manager and motherrf the hottest family in hollywood, the kardashians. the busty and bombastic stars of four reality shows now. and we wanted to know, where does she draw the line between love and money? it's reality television moments like these, on "keeping up with the kardashians" that mom kris jenner says have made every

member of their household famous. >> we're not actors, we're not singers. we don't have musical talent. i can't dance to save my life. we're famous because we have fwo four television shows. >> reporter: it's those four shows that jenner used to brand, p and promote, her children. all six of them, make that up that $65 million kardashian industry. >> just go over there and push the button. >> reporter: even the house is branded. the doorbell, that catchy kardashian theme song. she is the epitome of a hollywood momager. turning g r brood first into tv stars and then into advertising gold. >> i want to be like the perfect mom at home baking cookies while at the same exact time being in

my office -- >> reporter: closing 20 deals. >> exactly. that's a problem for me. i'm so torn. >> reporter: would you say you're a great mom? >> yeah, i do. i think i'm a really good mom. and i make a really good cookie. >> reporter: but these days it's more deal making than cookie baking. >> and make sure we have covered up trademark. >> reporter: here in her office, decked out in the best of cash dash yan swag. >> so, khloe, i have to make a counter offer today. >> reporter: that's khloe on the phone, her daughter and her client. >> okay, i don't think there's any nudity. >> okay. i need to look at the story board. >> reporter: every deal means money in her pocket, too. is it weird getting a check from your kids? >> you know, i work so hard and it's such a business thing and it's really something that's all run through business managers. i do. i put in my 18-houou days every single day if we're filming or not. so, they see how we come up with

this stuff. like, when weapon got the sears deal, it was so exciting. jenner says the kardashian ve. kollection for sears is easily the biggest deal she's made to date. >> this was our ultimate dream come true and partnering up with sears was just -- it just seemed right from the moment we, you know, my mom brought it to us. >> reporter: is your mom -- she describes herself as a control freak. true, false? >> i think we all are control freaks. >> we all are. >> i think we all are -- >> but in different areas. we are. and then if one of us is like flipping in that area -- >> the other will make up for it. >> and attack the other one for slipping. if my mom forgot about something, we get on her case that she'll pray she never forgets again. >> reporter: the rules about no talking back to your mom don't apply here. >> i'm your mother. >> okay, so, shut the [ bleep ] up.

>> i just finished closing a perfume deal for kim. >> reporter: especially when a deal comes through for mom and not the other. >> and you get kim her own deal first and then it the three of us? >> reporter: fighting words from khloe, upset for leaving her and kourtney out of that first fragrance deal. >> i will sue you. >> reporter: i'm sure ththgirls were jealous. >> i think probably more annoyed with mom that i did -- it wasn't like a jealousy to kim, it was like, ah, mom, let's step it up. >> reporter: how do you handle that? when you have three clients who happen to be your daughters, who all will be vying for the same type of jobs. >> well, you know what? it's all about my intuition and knowing instinctively that it's the time for kim to have a fragrance. you have to have tough skin. i can't get my feelings hurt because khloe is upset about something that didn't go her way professionally. some things i just can't control. i'm not god. i can't make magic happen at all times. hi, khloe.

can i have a chat with you? >> reporter: sometimes putting the deal first can hurt feelings. >> i'm trying to say that i feel like you could not chat about how many cookies you're eating in between meals. >> reporter: like when jenner criticized khloe for putting on weight. >> are you trying to say that i'm fat and [ bleep ] up your -- >> reporter: and jeopardizing a lucrative endorsement deal that jenner had brokered. >> sorry i'm ruining your brand, mom. i'm so sorry. i'll just become buanorexic. >> >> reporter: it's got to b b difficult. you have the mom and the boss. >> yeah, it's very hard. one moment i'm talking to khloe as her mom and it's like having a split persononity, you know? suddenly she'll turn around and, like, i'm her manager and, you know, i'm your client and you didn't do this. and i get scolded or, you know, they're not happy about something and i have to fix it. >> reporter: right now,enner is turning her focus on her youngest two daughters with her second husband, bruce jenner.

13-year-old kylie and 15-year-old kendall. is it hard to get your mom to take off the manager hat and put back on the mom hat? >> little bit. >> yeah. >> reporter: is she over there saying, "say no." >> whoa, whoa, whoa. watch what you say. i'm watching you, kendall. >> reporter: she's even trying to control this interview. >> yeah. >> reporter: it's the lore of that car dakardashian name that older girls scored that led kris to tell her family, on camera, that she was thinking about -- >> i've been kind of thinking about maybe just, for real, changing my last name back to kardashian. >> reporter: it was an idea that even the kardashian girls themselves thought was ridiculous. >> jenner was good enough for the first 20 years and now all of a sudden you want to change it? that's not okay for bruce. >> it's not because i don't think that jenner is a good enough or it's not - -- >> you can't be a groupie. you can't be bruce jenner's

[ bleep ]. sorry. >> i live in a kardashian world. it's kardashian inc in my office. everything i do is, you know, i eat kardashian, i breathe kardashian, i sleep kardashian. i deal in kardashian. so, everyone calls me kris kardashian. so, for one second, i thought, maybe i'll just succumb to the fact that i'm just -- need to be a kardashian for awhile. and of course my entire family shut that down. >> reporter: you were thinking like a manager, you weree thinking business. >> i was thinking business. that was the problem. i wasn't thinking personal and that's when i know i must really need a vacation. >> what does kris do when she's not burning the candle at both ends? >> reporter: there's no vacation or slowing down for jenner, who has managed to advertise the family brand into deems for herself. this is her latest sketcher's commercial, co-starring her daughter kim. did you have aspirations of a big career in hollywood as a kid? >> i never had this sort of

aspiration. my aspiration growing up was to have six kids. exactly that number. that was my dream come true. >> reporter: all with names startingngith k. of course, because i'm kris with a k. >> let's go to dash. >> reporter: dash is the store that her daugters own. and this new bentley? a gift to herself for closing the sears deal. can you go out in public and not get mobbed? >> it gets a little bit more difficult. the annoying part is, you know, there's constantly photographers. >> reporter: that's got to be hard for the kinds, for the young ones. >> kendall and kylie went to watch the fireworks on the fourth of j jy and i wrote to kylie, i said, are you having fun? and she wrote back, no, i'm crying. there's paparazzi everywhere, i

just wanted to be a kid today. and that broke my heart. >> reporter: that's the tricky part for you, i would imagine. >> yaep, it is very, very tricky and it is a choice that i made. >> reporter: it's all just part of the fame game. >> these are my friends. they're called the paparazzi. >> reporter: is this every day? >> every day. >> reporter: the paparazzi are now after her, too. because every photo, every snip pet of video with any of the kardashians or jenners is big business. fair to say the paparazzi helped you get to the level -- >> absolutely. i play the game. just as much as the next person. >> reporter: jenner is a self-professed control freak. and can't seem to help herself from being a momoger even when she's not dealing with her kids. >> i'm going to give you a tip. we're walking out of dash, we got a street load of paparazzi. i'm not letting you walk out of

here without a little publicity. >> so that's how she does it. see? >> reporter: what are you going to do when your clients are too booked to take anymore gigs? >> i know. i think of something else to come up with. maybe i'll get pregnant again. >> reporter: another client. >> 10%. you didn't really think hollywood moms were raising kids on their own, did you? up next, the best secret in hollywood. the selective school that trains the nannies to the stars.

i'm joined again by my mommy friend, abc's lara spencer. and when you ask yourself, how do the celebrity moms do it all? i think one of the crucial ingredients must be a-list child care, right? >> it has to be. we're talking about books, tv shows, endorsement deals. and yes, there is usually a second set of hands or maybe a third. and would you imagine that they're finding these super nannies in a place called chagrin falls, ohio? this is a secret place for hollywood's red carpet ready nannies. behind every a-list mommy in

hollywood is that second pair of hands that they can't live without. angelina jolie's got one. gwen stefani, too. a nanny, that is. but getting to be a celebrity nanny is none too easy or glamorous, for that manner. especially here at the english nanny and governess school in chagrin falls, ohio. these students have all come here with a dream. to some day work for the rich and famous. sheila roth founded the school 27 years ago. she's trained hundreds of nannies since and placed them with some of the most famous hollywood families. so, you're not just training babysitters here. >> we are not training babysitters. we are training fantastic, professional nannies. >> reporter: it's nanny college. crammed into an intensive 12-week course where nannies learn cpr -- >> this person's life is in your

hands. >> reporter: cooking. even riding and handling horses. >> there are a lot of high profile families that take lessons with horses or they have horses where they live. if a nanny is not comfortable around the horsrs the children and the horse will pick up on it and they won't be able to enjoy their horse time. >> atta girl. >> reporter: throughout the course, the nannies are put to the test, sent into nearby homes to care for real children. >> oh! good job! good girl! you are breaking protocol. >> reporter: how so? >> the hostess pours the tea for everybody. >> reporter: her nannies would know that. critical for anyone who may end up at dinner with royalty. >> they always sasa thank goodness we learned how to eat properly. >> a claw to the eyes is effective. >> reporter: she runs the school with her son who instructs the women in the all-important art of self-defense.

to protect themselves and those famous kiddies from dangerous celebrity stalkers and the 24/7 prying eyes of the paparazzi. when i may use all these eagles and tigers? >> hopefully never. but in the event you have to use this, you can call on it. somebody's on top of you, you punch them, what damage are you going to do? maybe. >> reporter: though attending the school costs each student $10,000, each nanny stands to make that back almost immediately. how much money can one of your nannies or governesses make a year? >> unlimited. i have people making huge salaries. >> reporter: give me a number. >> quarter of a million dollars. >> reporter: on top of that? all the perks thato along with living life alongside a mega-famous star. >> there's been stories where the family actually pays for the nanny to further her education.

they take her on shopping trips, take her on cruises, personal planes, like, all of it. they're living the life. >> reporter: they are beautiful, smart and innocent. all of these women strangers to hollywood. before this, rachel was home schooled on her family farm. if you work for a celebrity family, you could be deeming with stalkers, a train wreck of a celebrity. are you prepared for all of that? >> i think so. it would take some getting used to and i'm sure there would be days when i think, what am i doing? >> reporter: and with famous hollywood men cheating with their nannies, how does this school keep their girls out of the headline s? these are young, attractive girls. how do yourepare them in case they get hit on? >> all they have to do is call me and i say, tell them good-bye, you're out of there. they are employoys. they're in the professional capacity with a job to do.

they're not there for the whims of the employer. >> r rorter: but let's be honest. you have jude law, had a relationship with his nanny -- >> not my graduate. those are not my nannies. >> reporter: this group of unanimousnies all graduate with honors and distinction. >> welcome to the 104th graduating class. >> reporter: dressed in their nanny best. >> christina. >> reporter: on to bigger and better [ man ] sweet, nutty crunchy nut...

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